LFW slutar leverera till Sverige

[KurtLae]

But isn't it a UK-tax that should be subtracted also? (in your calculation)

Yes, the english VAT should be reduced from the price of the bottle, but as Sam describes it the Swedish Excise has nothing to do with the price of the bottle: "Swedish Excise at 501 SEK per litre of pure alcohol (for a 70cl bottle at 40% this is 501 x 0.7 x 0. 4)". It is a tax based on the content of pure alcohol.

The price for a Loch Fyne £16,7 would be reduced from english VAT (16,7 / 1,15 = 14,52) but then you have to add the swedish VAT (14,52 x 1,25 = £18,15

To this we add the swedish excise 501 x 0,7 x 0,4 = 140,28 SEK or £11,23

As I see it a Loch Fyne would cost 18,15 + 11,23 = £29,38

In total the Loch Fyne would get 29,28 - 16,7 = £12,68 more expensive similar to an extra 76%

Note that the increase in price will differ lot from bottle to bottle.

Since you pay extra for the pure alcohol you can say that:

A cheap and strong whisky will get the highest percentage increase, an expensive weak whisky will get the lowest.

Note that my calculations are based on what SAM Gutenwik at LFW wrote. I hope that he can clarify this.

I also hope that he can give us a date when it will be possible to buy whiskies again.

According to the website it will be possible for customers in Norway soon, but not for Sweden.

[ardbeg67]

Yes, the english VAT should be reduced from the price of the bottle, but as Sam describes it the Swedish Excise has nothing to do with the price of the bottle: "Swedish Excise at 501 SEK per litre of pure alcohol (for a 70cl bottle at 40% this is 501 x 0.7 x 0. 4)". It is a tax based on the content of pure alcohol.

The price for a Loch Fyne £16,7 would be reduced from english VAT (16,7 / 1,15 = 14,52) but then you have to add the swedish VAT (14,52 x 1,25 = £18,15

To this we add the swedish excise 501 x 0,7 x 0,4 = 140,28 SEK or £11,23

As I see it a Loch Fyne would cost 18,15 + 11,23 = £29,38

In total the Loch Fyne would get 29,28 - 16,7 = £12,68 more expensive similar to an extra 76%

Note that the increase in price will differ lot from bottle to bottle.

Since you pay extra for the pure alcohol you can say that:

A cheap and strong whisky will get the highest percentage increase, an expensive weak whisky will get the lowest.

Note that my calculations are based on what SAM Gutenwik at LFW wrote. I hope that he can clarify this.

I also hope that he can give us a date when it will be possible to buy whiskies again.

According to the website it will be possible for customers in Norway soon, but not for Sweden.

I don't think that Sam has started to work at LFW. But who knows

And still I say that you must subtract the UK tax (not the VAT). I suppose that LFW has done so in their calculation.

[KurtLae]

I don't think that Sam has started to work at LFW. But who knows

And still I say that you must subtract the UK tax (not the VAT). I suppose that LFW has done so in their calculation.

Oh, I thought the VAT and UK tax was the same thing.

How much is the UK tax ?

Can you do a calculation in the same example with the Loch Fyne ?

[mosson]

Oh, I thought the VAT and UK tax was the same thing.

How much is the UK tax ?

Can you do a calculation in the same example with the Loch Fyne ?

Alcohol tax in the UK is approx 300SEK (22,64£ I think) per litre of 100% alcohol compared to 501SEK in Sweden which would equate to approx 80SEK UK-tax on a 0,7litre bottle at 40ABV compared to 140SEK in Swedish tax. This difference is what I guess is referred to the bottle in the example.

VAT in the UK is 15%

MOMS in Sweden is 25%

So as an example: a bottle (70cl of 40%) that could be had for 400 SEK earlier would now cost closer to 500SEK I guess (too hot to do a proper calculation but it should be close enough)

[ardbeg67]

Oh, I thought the VAT and UK tax was the same thing.

How much is the UK tax ?

Can you do a calculation in the same example with the Loch Fyne ?

Right now the UK tax/duty on spirits is £22.64 per litre of pure alcohol. This gives approx. £6.34 (22.64x0.4x0.7) duty on the Loch Fyne whisky bottle. So the difference, in duty, between UK and Sweden is a little more than £4 right now.

[ardbeg67]

A cheap and strong whisky will get the highest percentage increase, an expensive weak whisky will get the lowest.

The duty is the same regardless the whisky is expensive or not. But the VAT will vary a lot more. So it’s not exactly true to say like you say above.

[Hakan G]

Please give me an example.

Lets say that we have a bottle that costs 500SEK with uk tax and VAT, at loch fyne (70 cl. 40%).

What would the new price be?

[Thomas]

Räkna även med att man kommer att lägga på en egen högre marginal då administrationen blir betydligt jobbigare.

1. UK Alcohol Tax skall dras av och redovisas detaljerat till myndigheterna i UK.

2. Svensk alkoholskatt skall redovisa och betalas och även den skall vara hyffsat detaljerad.

3. Säljaren skall företrädas av en svensk representant i Sverige som inte kommer att göra sitt jobb gratis.

4. Om säljaren har köpt in flaskor "UK Duty Paid" så skall de runda etiketterna som sitter på flaskan "neutraliseras", vilket oftast sker genom att man klistar en liten svart lapp över. Ett handarbete som någon skall göra.

5. Hantering av VAT/Moms i de båda länderna. Här är jag inte helt säker på hanteringen då man säljer till en privatperson. Spontant känns det som att man inte behöver dra av UK Vat och ersätta med Svensk Moms, men jag är mycket osäker. Moms på alkoholskatten skall säkerligen betalas.

Ha det så gott i värmen!

[KurtLae]

Right now the UK tax/duty on spirits is £22.64 per litre of pure alcohol. This gives approx. £6.34 (22.64x0.4x0.7) duty on the Loch Fyne whisky bottle. So the difference, in duty, between UK and Sweden is a little more than £4 right now.

Thank's for the clarification !

Since I am at work I have time to recalculate the example ;-)

The current price for a Loch Fyne: £16,7

Without UK VAT: 16,7 / 1,15 = £14,52

VAT/MOMS

UK VAT: 14,52 x 0,15 = 2,18

Swedish VAT: 14,52 x 0,25 = £3,63

Alcohol tax/duty

UK duty: 22,64 x 0,7 x 0,4 = £6,34

Swedish duty: 501 x 0,7 x 0,4 = 140,28 SEK or £11,23

New Swedish price: 14,52 + 3,63 + 11,23 - 6,34 = £23,04

In total the Loch Fyne would get 23,04 - 16,7 = £6,34 more expensive similar to an extra 38%

This could differ a bit depending on if VAT should be paid for the alcohol duty or not.

[tga]

Själv tänker jag bara kolla vad priset blir på en flaska jag är intresserad av. Är priset OK så köper jag, annars låter jag bli. Så enkelt är det