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whiskylover
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Ps börja läs mailkonversationen längst ner Ds

Tappen

do as you like i do not accept blackmails, write to all the forum you want ,i will answer that you try to swindle meremember that i do not need your moneyto survive as i have enough for the

rest of my life

regards

giuseppe

----- Original Message -----

From: "Tapani Kuusela" <whiskylover@hotmail.com

To: <info@whiskyparadise.com

Cc: <whiskylover@hotmail.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 8:56 PM

Subject: LAST CHANCE

Hi,

In attached picture the first row show the set you or your college have

send me. and in the second row you see the set my friend already have.

You can see the differens between the sets becourse the set below dont

have any Italian taxmarkets.

Its a pity that you cant admit that you or somebody in your company have

made a misstake.

I bought the set from a collector and he now that its only the missing the

mini Port Ellen 22 yo 30.11.74/15.05.97 cask6754, XX/260, 59,2% im looking

for (in the middle of the picture)

So I give you your LAST opperturnaty to make things right.

Otherwise I will send our maildisussions to 5 different whiskyforums in

Europe, and you will got a very badwill.

/Tapani

From: "Begnoni" <info@whiskyparadise.com

To: "Tapani Kuusela" <whiskylover@hotmail.com

Subject: Re: Swapping Sets or answere to 2 of may

Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 12:14:35 +0200

i do not sold the first set to other customer, the set was aside for you

and i have seen very well that was bottled may 1997

regards

giuseppe

----- Original Message -----

From: "Tapani Kuusela" <whiskylover@hotmail.com

To: <info@whiskyparadise.com

Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 12:10 PM

Subject: Re: Swapping Sets or answere to 2 of may

Hi giuseppe,

The problem is that my friend only have whisky I have bought to him.

So he could not have make a swapp to some other bottles.

If you have sell the first set you put a side for me to someone else

its not my problem. Its not fair to send the ther set as you do and then say that we have swaped it.

And Im very dissapointed of you that you say that Im lying.

Why Should I do that? As I say before your price of the set was very high

and it was just the set of the first Port Ellen which was intressing.

I will go to my friend And put the set you send me between his other

bottles and show you.

After that picture I give you an opperturnety to make everything ok.

Best Regards

Tapani

From: "Begnoni" <info@whiskyparadise.com

To: "Tapani Kuusela" <whiskylover@hotmail.com

Subject: Re: Swapping Sets or answere to 2 of may

Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:41:44 +0200

dear tapani,

i have sent the set bottled in may 1997, and i amvery sure of that,

what i think is that your friend have another set bottled october and he

want to send me back this set and keep mine that was the first one,

I AM NOT STUPID

sorry but you have to keep the bottles

ciao

giuseppe

----- Original Message -----

From: "Tapani Kuusela" <whiskylover@hotmail.com

To: <info@whiskyparadise.com

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:22 PM

Subject: Swapping Sets or answere to 2 of may

Hi Giuseppe,

I will be away this weekend and willbe back in middle of next

week.

As I told you before It was only the PE in the first set what was

intressting. My friend just missed the mini of that PE.

So you didnt want to sell just the PE set so you write that I have

to buy all the other 5 bottles to.

And that was our aggreement.

Becourse I transfere you the 400 E as a deposition then you put

aside the first set you probably put away the wrong set.

The misstake have been done by you.

Im waiting for your answere how we shall do at latest the 2 of may

2007.

Best Regards

Tapani kuusela

From: "Begnoni" <info@whiskyparadise.com

To: "Tapani Kuusela" <whiskylover@hotmail.com

Subject: Re: Port ellen Silent still

Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:42:06 +0200

DEAR TAPANI, I HAVE CHEKED AND IN MY OTHER SET THERE IS NOT A

SPARE PORT ELLEN BOTTLED MAY 97 SO I BELIEVE THAT THE ONE I HAVE SENT TO YOU IT IS THE CORRECT ONE also i believe you do not open the cartons by yourself because you wrote me after 4 days that there was a wrong port ellen and not immediatly in any case i am sorry but i do not have another one sorry about that

giuseppe

----- Original Message -----

From: "Tapani Kuusela" <whiskylover@hotmail.com

To: <info@whiskyparadise.com

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:50 AM

Subject: Re: Port ellen Silent still

Hi,

Sorry,Its Port Ellen is 18 16.01.79 29.10.97 274 xx/190 56,3

If you look at the attached file it was the first one he was

intrested of. He has the other bottles but not the mini of the first release.

Best Regards

Tapani

From: "Begnoni" <info@whiskyparadise.com

To: "Tapani Kuusela" <whiskylover@hotmail.com

Subject: Re: Port ellen Silent still

Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:38:25 +0200

I HAVE ASKED YOU THE BOTTLING DATE OF THE PORT ELLEN YOU HAVE

RECEIVED,

WHY

YOU DO NOT ANSWER????

----- Original Message -----

From: "Tapani Kuusela" <whiskylover@hotmail.com

To: <info@whiskyparadise.com

Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:02 PM

Subject: Re: Port ellen Silent still

Hi Giuseppe,

Im sorry to tell but you have send the 2:ond set.

Not the first one as i asked you below.

How shall we do?

Best regards

Tapani

From: "Begnoni" <info@whiskyparadise.com

To: "Tapani Kuusela" <whiskylover@hotmail.com

Subject: Re: Port ellen Silent still

Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 11:28:37 +0100

yes i can , but please send a deposit of 400 euro as i

have only one set for sale

ciao

giuseppe

----- Original Message -----

From: "Tapani Kuusela" <whiskylover@hotmail.com

To: <info@whiskyparadise.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:10 AM

Subject: Re: Port ellen Silent still

Hi,

I wonder if you could hold the set to end of marz?

Best Regards

Tapani

From: "Begnoni" <info@whiskyparadise.com

To: "Tapani Kuusela" <whiskylover@hotmail.com

Subject: Re: Port ellen Silent still

Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:13:02 +0100

i do not sell, only in a set

----- Original Message -----

From: "Tapani Kuusela" <whiskylover@hotmail.com

To: <info@whiskyparadise.com

Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:49 PM

Subject: Re: Port ellen Silent still

Hi again,

A last quiestion.

If you should sell only the PE in the first set of

6 Silent stills, what would your price bee?

Best Regards

Tapani

From: "Begnoni" <info@whiskyparadise.com

To: "Tapani Kuusela" <whiskylover@hotmail.com

Subject: Re: Port ellen Silent still

Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:13:34 +0100

yes this is the set and i can hold for you

ciao

giuseppe

----- Original Message -----

From: "Tapani Kuusela" <whiskylover@hotmail.com

To: <info@whiskyparadise.com

Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:01 AM

Subject: Re: Port ellen Silent still

Hi,

I will give you an answere in next week.

Is this the bottles in the set?

Littlemilllo 31 25.10.65 15.05.97 5273 xx/180 46,5

Glen Flagler 24 10.11.72 15.05.97 228444 xx/230 52

Glen Albynhi 31 16.12.65 15.05.97 3835 xx/530 51,5

Glenugiehi 19 21.04.78 15.05.97 2407 xx/220 57,4

Port EllenIs 22 30.11.74 15.05.97 6754 xx/260 59,2

Glenlochy hi 32 20.05.65 20.05.97 1528 xx/210 47,9

Could you hold the set until next week.

Regards

Tapani

From: "Begnoni" <info@whiskyparadise.com

To: "Tapani Kuusela"

<whiskylover@hotmail.com

Subject: Re: Port ellen Silent still

Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:37:36 +0100

now it is clear, the set is:

GLENUGIE 19

LITTLEMILL 31

GLEN FLAGLER 24

GLEN ALBYN 31

GLEN LOCHY 32

PLUS PORT ELLEN

THIS IS THE FIRST SET BOTTLED MAY 97

there is another port ellen 1979/19 in the

second set bottled october 97

price of the first set is euro 2400 including

postage, second set euro 2100 let me know if you want

i have also both sets without mini bottle and

box, just the bottles priceeuro 1700 for the first and 1500 for the second

ciao

giuseppe

----- Original Message -----

From: "Tapani Kuusela"

<whiskylover@hotmail.com

To: <info@whiskyparadise.com

Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:13 AM

Subject: Re: Port ellen Silent still

Hi Again,

If i say like this.

What do i have to buy from you to get the

Brand: Port Ellen - 1974 - 22 years old

Bottlers: Signatory

Category: Whisky - Malt

Country: Islay

Volume: 59,2 Vol.

Capacity: 70 Cl.

Bottle Date: 1997

Regards

Tapani

From: "Begnoni" <info@whiskyparadise.com

To: "Tapani Kuusela"

<whiskylover@hotmail.com

Subject: Re: Port ellen Silent still

Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:11:51 +0100

what you mean by set??? i have the 3

silent still sets and a lot of moon

import and samaroli sets of bottles, chek

on my web page by bottler company brae dean

that is moon import andduthiethat is

samaroli

ciao

giuseppe

----- Original Message -----

From: "Tapani Kuusela"

<whiskylover@hotmail.com

To: <info@whiskyparadise.com

Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:58 AM

Subject: Re: Port ellen Silent still

Hi,

I have the 70 cl bottle and miss the miniatyr.

What others sets do you have that you will sell?

And what is your price the?

Regards

Tapani

From: "Begnoni"

<info@whiskyparadise.com

To: "Tapani Kuusela"

<whiskylover@hotmail.com

Subject: Re: Port ellen Silent still

Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:57:08 +0100

i had just one spare bottle and i

have sold last week, now i will sell only in a set of 6 silent stills

ciao

giuseppe

----- Original Message -----

From: "Tapani Kuusela"

<whiskylover@hotmail.com

To: <info@whiskyparadise.com

Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:44

AM

Subject: Port ellen Silent still

Hi Giuseppe,

Im looking for this one I found in

your

collection.

Brand: Port Ellen - 1974 - 22

years

old

Bottlers: Signatory

Category: Whisky - Malt

Country: Islay

Volume: 59,2 Vol.

Capacity: 70 Cl.

Bottle Date: 1997

Rotation date:

Cod. ID: MAPort_E1049

What price do you have for that

one?

Best regards from a stormy Sweden

Tapani
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Jenz Rönnow
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Så här i efterhand kunde det varit bra att filma när kartongen öppnades. Mycket svårt att få rätt i en sådan här sak, han sitter i italien och ni i sverige. Skulle vara svårt även om man skulle vilja pröva fallet rättsligt.
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Falcone
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Minst sagt märklig attityd från Giuseppe Begnoni. Rent köprättsligt, även om det finns en del IP-rättsliga implikationer, har du rätten på din sida då du helt enkelt inte fått vad du beställt.
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Hakan G
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Detta är rent J...A SKIT!!!!

Stå på dig tappen.

Jag kan intyga till 100% att du är en person man verkligen kan lita på.

Vad har hänt (betalningsmässigt)?

Vilka forum har du skickat ut till?

Helt klart behövs det en riktig näsbränna för den otrevliga Italienaren!
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rvh
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Sicken typ! :angry: Hänvisa till att han skiter i vad du gör för han har pengar så han klarar sig är väl droppen om nå't...

Skicka ut till andra forum och knåpa ihop en hemsida och sprid länken som varning. Malt Maniacs har en sida som varnar för förfalskningar. Dom borde kanske varna om oseriösa försäljare också! Om han inte drabbas ekonomiskt ska han i alla fall skämmas! Buss på bara!
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johan
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Jag har hört talas om hans arroganta sätt i andra sammanhang också.

Det är ju tyvärr inte helt enkelt att processa om den här typen av affärer, konsumentlagen blir väl inte riktigt tillämplig. Dock tycker jag att det är på sin plats att berätta för andra om sina erfarenheter, för att minska risken för att fler blir blåsta på samma sätt och bättre spridning än Malt Manics sidor är nog svårt att få...
Senast redigerad av johan den tis maj 15, 2007 4:48 pm, redigerad totalt 1 gång.
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Mattias
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Verkar inte vara någon rolig typ att göra affärer med. Tur för oss andra att en varning nu dyker upp.

Synd bara att det var en så pass kostsam historia.

Stå på dig i alla fall.
Martin-std
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Det är fruktansvärt trist att bli drabbat av något sådant här. Hoppas att dina varningar på olika sidor gör att han inte kan blåsa fler personer. Det hjälper dock inte dig... :(

Stå på dig Tappen!
myran
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Det är fruktansvärt trist att bli drabbat av något sådant här. Hoppas att dina varningar på olika sidor gör att han inte kan blåsa fler personer. Det hjälper dock inte dig... :(

Du borde maila honom och visa att han figurerar på detta forum.

Här är han väl rökt ändå !

Det finnes ju fler int forum också, han förtjänar att hängas ut !

Aldrig roligt att bli blåst !

Bara att beklaga...

mvh myran
joney
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hur gick det med detta?